The Canadian Shooting Sports Association did an in-depth writeup titled The FULL Story on Canada’s Firearm Licence Revocation System.
What follows is as brief an overview of Canada’s firearm license revocation system. It is not meant to replace the CSSA’s resource, but to augment it.
Section 70 of the Firearms Act contains Canada’s licence revocation provisions. It gives broad discretion to a Chief Firearms Officer (CFO) to revoke an individual’s Possession and Acquisition Licence.
70 (1) A chief firearms officer may revoke a licence, an authorization to carry or an authorization to transport for any good and sufficient reason including, without limiting the generality of the foregoing,
(a) where the holder of the licence or authorization
(i) is no longer or never was eligible to hold the licence or authorization,
(ii) contravenes any condition attached to the licence or authorization, or
(iii) has been convicted or discharged under section 730 of the Criminal Code of an offence referred to in paragraph 5(2)(a); or
Bill Blair, Minister of Public Safety, rose in the House of Commons on February 6, 2020, and said the current law is too restrictive, hence the need to broaden this already expansive provision.
Mr. Speaker, the laws that are currently available that enable law enforcement to seize firearms and to revoke licences are limited in their application and it is only in the circumstances where reasonable, probable grounds exist and only in circumstances where a seizure of a firearm has taken place that a firearm can be revoked.
This is untrue.
Minister Blair is, at best, disingenuous. At worst, just like his boss did the day before, he is intentionally misleading the Members of the House of Commons and, along with them, all Canadians.
For any good and sufficient reason is an extremely wide net.
Contrary to Minister Blair’s assertion, it is a Chief Firearms Officer who decides what “good and sufficient reason” means on a case-by-case basis.
- Did you make a stupid and angry comment on Facebook?
- Did you make a comment on Twitter that, when read out of context, sounds threatening to another human being?
- Did you threaten someone with physical harm? Could someone reasonably misinterpret your statements in that manner?
- Did you get a speeding ticket and spout off at the officer giving you a ticket?
Any or all of these could be deemed “good and sufficient reason” in the eyes of a Chief Firearms Officer, and could result in your firearm licence being revoked.
Yes, you can go to court to challenge the revocation of your Possession and Acquisition Licence, but until a judge in a court of law deems otherwise, your licence is revoked.
Blair’s characterization of the law is disheartening, because he knows better. He used these provisions many times, by his own admission, during his long career as a police officer and Chief of the Toronto Police.
I honestly don’t know how the government can expand on the current licence revocation system. It’s already so broad you can fly a 737 through the gap without the wings touching both ends of the spectrum.
What do you think? Please let me know in the comments below.
Typical Canadian Lawmaking where the interpretation of the (vague) law is up to the police officer laying the charge, personal rights or true intention of the law be damned. They will hash out the vagueries in court, meanwhile, you lose everything and are pounded into submission by the long court process and financial burdens that a trip through the court system entails.
I think what that pathological liar, Bill Blair, meant to say is “The current law is far too clear and concise and we need to muddy up the waters so the interpretation of the law can be misconstrued and twisted to suit our exact needs in order to crush the public into submission.”
When are the Canadian People going to stand up for their rights and start calling these political hand puppet bozo’s out on the carpet to get this fixed? Is it already too late?
U nailed it, TOUCHE!!!
N theory it’s never 2 late,
These tyrannical puppets
R order followers
Sad 2 say…
But U rite,
If we choose not 2 C
da future,
Da future will choose us…
start with a referendum to take away Parliamentary Privilege that allows politicians like Blair and Turdo to lie in the House of Commons with impunity. Of course tyrants like them would never allow such a referendum to go ahead.
I agree with you! Govt will one day own all of what we call our freedom ??
As a 4 year firearms novice,
& Believe me “a novice” lol,
I may B wrong N saying this
but me heart says other wise,
I feel theres all kinds of room
4 improvement as a licensed holder.
I think it should B optional &
or mandatory when it comes 2
suggestions B low…
FOR ALL “PAL” HOLDERS
1.First Aid training.
2.Anger Management Course.
3.Alarm System plus Video N Residence.
4.Gun Safe PERIOD.
5.Must B long 2 a gun club,”Restricted”only.
6.if gun safe is big enough 2 hide N ?
Then gun safe must B able 2 B opened
from N side plus a fire extinguisher.
7.if U own several types of bullets,
Then U MUST have several types
of dummy rounds N conjunction
with the size of magazines N order
2 avoid & no excuses of negligent
discharge of live rounds.
8.all “Hunters” Manditory bullet proof vest.
9.all Gun Clubs,every one,Manditory
bullets proof vest.
10.all Gun Clubs,optional silencers.
11.Must B a member of at least one
Organization,example- CCFR,CSSA,etc.
with insurance.
12.must B a member with Road Side Solution N the event of car etc braking down while transporting any fire arms or have acces
or back up,friend,tow truck,etc.
13.all Gun Clubs should use a “AIM”
report system, aka
“Acident – Incident- Malfunctions”
14.all Gun Clubs – Manditory Alarm Siren,
AKA Panic buttons etc
N da event of some 1 going Postal,
This also N cludes sufficient lighting
B it day or night N conjunction with alarm siren.
15.all Gun Clubs “RSO” Manditory carry a
“SIDE ARM”
16.all Gun Clubs – must have some safe house,room etc 4 each range N the unlikely event of ???-Mandatory.
17.each safe room or house must have
1st aid,cell phone,bullet proof window,
fire extinguisher etc,etc,etc…
18.when transporting fire arms,
Optional video N vehicle.
19.Manditory – must carry a whistle
while at range or hunting,all hunters
Flashlight as well.
20.all Gun Clubs – Mandatory- “defibrillator”
on property plus all safe rooms etc.
Got plenty more,I think lol…
Further more,
Please dont take this 2 heart,
It’s really all N good taste.
May B there R some good
idea’s above,or may B not.
But either way I guess what am
trying 2 say is,if I were Bill Blair
or Justina Trudeau these R some
idea’s 2 look at when it comes 2
room 4 improvement on this side
of da fence.
I cant help but 2 think,
may B just may B,
if there given something 2 nibble on,
they just might bite,example – above…
Steer them N da rite direction 4 say,
if that dont work then we hire
Derran Brown “LMFAO”
Problem solved…
“Hint” “Derran Brown – red bmx bike”
youtube lol lmao…
The few
The Proud
The Canadian GUN GROWD !!!
GOD BLESS
Blue skies
soft landings
Mickey D-445…
if you think those are good ideas, implement them for yourself. As for adding those stupid suggestions as requirements onto me, pound sand! We need more freedom, not less.
You said it, Joe.
Canadian shooters are already among the safest and most safety conscious civilian firearm users on the planet. Ask any US or EU range officer.
Mickey D, if you don’t want to be a novice shooter anymore maybe focus on putting more rounds downrange, and putting more rounds on target, rather than taking what I assume are some high-test pot edibles and trying to write witty comments.
Just my $0.02
I been 2 range every weekend 4 almost am guessing several months strait,
I have no winter tires
I make every effort I can 2 go,
Missed 1 weekend last july,had 2 turn around 5 minutes away from range,my building went up N flames…
I was pissed!!!
As 4 safety,
Yes of course am going 2 agree with U…
Duuu,lol
But imagine,
Just 4 a second,
Indulge me please,
Imagine if we as ‘pal”
holders could say,
we have an anger management course
under R belts,
It was a free prerequisite traing course given when obtaining a “PAL”
in Canada…
it could may be prevente a good guy from doing some thing STUPID,
It could may be
have a good guy see
the signs of some thing stupid ready to happen.
It could also have none believers feel more confident or comfortable in respect to “PAL” holders…
I find it very ironic that
in order to get a free anger management course in this country one has to literally
Assault some one…
I also find it more ironic
that we as Canadian “PAL” holders are so safe with fire arms according to stats that we dont need 1st Aid Training as a prerequisite…Really ???
Were that good
Were that safe,
Sounds to me like the birth of Murphy’s Law
in the makeing…
I have about 10 thousand individuals
under my belt over the years,
I listen very closely to how students talk,speak,act etc,
From the slightest of ego flares to what could be perceived as
a jinx…
Stats – really
Well then,
stats are never wrong,
what was I thinking,
Duuu lol
Here come a wee bit closer,that’s it,
Closer
bit more
a wee bit more
Slap Slap Really ???
Lol Relax it’s all in fun,the slapping part,
1st time I got slapped
via a text message I lol,
Kinda like a pattern interrupt- aka –
Hypnosis Training,
Hypnosis was the norm until 1st Aid came along…so you know…
I belive we’ve lots are ways,
Ok stats win,
No class 4 U,
Get N da plane,
Dont 4 get 2 Arch,
Opps
4 get is a embedded
Command,
“REMEMBER” 2 ARCH…
Stats say U should B
Fine,
Sunset load a must,
It gets really dark,
really quick by da time we get 2 da top floor…
According 2 stats
that is…giggle giggle
Also according 2 stats,
Theres no such thing as birds bats or goose
flying at night around trees, Wink wink,
Ok I surrender,
Maybe it’s really just me,
Flash Back –
Bob lost his job,
But it has nothing 2 do with what his wife dose 4 a living,
Any questions ???
Yes potential juror
#1. What’s ya
question ?
What dose Bob’s wife do 4 a living???
Juror # 1.
U R 2 report 4 jury duty 1st thing Monday morning,
For about 6 to 7 months lol…
ya Honour my client
would like 2 change his plea to Not guilty…
Duuu lol
His wife has NOTHING
2 do with it,
Welcome 2 jury duty
U silly goose…
Stats have NOTHING 2 do with it…
U silly goose lol
Slap lol
Justin bieber was on the news all summer when he was cought pissing off the balcony,
Guess that means he a boy rite ???
NOT !!!
Justin Trudeau
Groped a girl,
Guess that means
hes a guy rite ???
NOT !!!
There both Transgender…
A doe is a Female deer,
it’s TRUE then
Tru-doe-female deer…
BIeber rhymes with ???
Beaver…
Da song She walks like Mick,
Mick Jagger???
Shikira- these hips dont lie ???
Yes cause ya back is strait,ya a guy…
Beyonce- or Boyonce
Lucille ball- ball -s ???
Lucy was an easy one,
Even when they roasted her on the Dean Martin,
her side kick even said,
Lucy I remember when U were a boy…lol
Every one knew she was a he,
Unless No no way
Unless U been dumb down lol
It was there I took it…
There’s 3 minutes of my life I’ll never get back.I’ve never seen a more idiotic post.
Well Joe,
Ya rite,but I did say
dont take it 2 heart,
Though I do strongly believe
N da 1st aid & some anger management study,
More so cause I have neither…
As 4 da 3 minutes waisted,
Am truly Sorry about that,
as long as U dont punish me
4 da same thing twice.
Again sorry,
As 4 needing more freedom
when it comes 2 BS being
pushed on “PAL” holders &
Canadians alike,
I also agree – it’s a given…
How ever,pointing fingers
aka close cousin 2 venting
is something am guilty of…
Or was guilty of,
As 4 what’s da answear
or what can we all do ???
It’s really simple,
Its self evident,
” Drum roll please “lol
Da answear 2 all this is
2 offer free coarses N
None Restricted – Restricted –
& Hunting 2 all Canadians,
B it 4 good or may B just da summer months,
This & only this,
is da only way 2 win all
Canadians over…Period
It’s so simple,
Duuu lol
But da money,
da greed,
Eeeee yikes…
da auto pilot verbal responses
N layman’s terms-
There not da problem,
WE ARE !!!
GO FIG…
We can fix it,
But its much easier 2 point
da FINGER…
Bitter yet Sweet
N joy B low,
This 1 is detacated 2 me AR
I hope not but just N case.
Lol
“Free” PAL courses… nothing is free. Current PAL instructors not doing it for free has nothing to do with greed, it is about making a living. Socialists don’t understand this concept I guess. If you feel like quitting your job, getting certified as a PAL instructor and putting the course on for all Canadians for free, go for it. Or alternatively, pay for the course for others to make it ‘free’ for them.
PS. I’m not the same Joe as the joe you replied to.
Am not sure,but
I think, hmmm
maybe theres a way around this.
maybe one month of the year offer free courses that could
help educate others.
Am pretty sure if
the CCFR & CSSA etc
went live on TV saying
we will now offer a
Hail Mary pass aka
Free courses every
month of July,
So as to educate
others,
I Believe it would be
A win win for all..
Could it be funded
through some other
branch of the government???
or maybe sponcers???
Am sure the opposition
would be eyes wide open screaming Crap,
There going to bring it
into the schools next…
They figured it out,
Yikes…
Or maybe,
coarse is free,
pay now or pay later,
U fail it’s free,
U pass U pay now
or later,dont know,
Again am Not sure,
am still grasping,
could use a weee bit
of help here,
After all,
Where theres a will
Theres always a way.
May be all the gun ranges could offer it,
Or offer to teach it
in schools etc,
It has to start some where,some how,
some way,
I say it 2 all,
Dont claim 2 B smart,
I speak from me Soul
contolled by me Heart.
U all seem to be
very good at
what U do,
Would be nice if
U all could help me
out with getting the
Ball Rolling…
Besides,
It already started
it already happened
when U Believe…
the Question is,
Who’s going to call
Tony & Rod,Tracy 2
to let them know,
Also thought I say,
I met Rod from CCFR,
is it just me,seems every one likes him,lol
Hes like a close cousin
to George Clooney,lol
Strange,
I like him alot,
Solid group of people
above,
That’s all…
Mickey D
Learn to write/type like an adult if you are going to comment in an adult setting.
Hey. I dont agree with your post but i will defend your right to post it
I would expect you would support my right to disagree
Thats freedom
Btw. Good fir you for posting your thoughts
What I’d prefer is your explanation of why you disagree. A flat “I don’t agree” is meaningless without it.
Thank U very much
Stan…
4 da record,
I agree with U disagreeing
with me more so because
I also disagree with me.lol
Hope that makes sense,
Am just running with the mouth
or fingers in this case,
Am affraid to type the way
I been typeing B 4,oops
before…
Seems every thing is being
Nit-Picked,
Freedom here,
may be there,
Depending on who you are…
Am guessing you disagree
with free courses that could educate others,
Some say theres no such thing
as a free ride,
That depends I guess,
Instr,s could still get paid,
Be it sponcers or maybe
volunteer once a month.
What we put out
attracts the same thing,
Kinda like the opposite of
A defibrillator,
If you have it,you probably
wont need it.
If you need it but dont have it,
Then good thing you were
tought 1st Aid in your
Hunting course etc,
As for anger management
coureses,
It’s like foresight to see
Insight,
aka
The educatted guess.
In respect to freedoms
George Carlin said it best,
It’s a fallacy,
Hint – Pearl Harbor,
Go watch his video,
I use to teach for almost
22 plus years out of 28 years,
Dispatched well over a
Thousand loads,
got 3000 plus jumps
Give or take,
not to mention
8 Malfunctions…yikes lol
Tought FJC,
First Jump Course,
JM loads galore,
When ever something
was offerd for free,
It always came back
10 fold…
Gave a free class,
Week late budy brings
Several of his friends,
Some of these people are
still in the sport,
teaching to boot…
One now runs his own
Drop Zone…
I believe every one on
this post
every one reading
here are pretty smart people,
But the milk has been spilled,
When I say
We are the problem,
Am saying unless we start
start coming up with simple
solution’s,
Then we really are the problem…
Now granted we do need
people exposing these tyrants,
like the person running this
forum,
We already have organizations
with Top Gun people
battling it out for all Canadian’s
CCFR,CSSA & the likes.
I think its fare & safe to say,
It’s time for every one
here there every where to start
thinking of ways to attract
others to this beautiful sport.
Theres no such thing as a
Stupid idea,
Go ask ya kids if they want to
go ice skating at the
gun range,
Ask them if they want to
go swimming at the portable
inflatable swimming pool
at the gun range
Then ask them if they
want to go to C a movie at da
“Drive In” at the gun range,
Ask them if they want to
play mini puddy golf at
the gun range,
They will more than likely
look you in the eyes & say,
Ok
But only after we finish are
1st Aid training in the
class room…
Camping for boy scouts
& girl scouts at the range,
Why I Never,
Remember it’s better
2 B Crazzzy than
2 run around it…
Like I said,
Kids don’t thing it’s a
stupid idea…
We all grew up,
we 4 got what its like
2 B younge again,
Child like,
2 dream big,then times
it by a zillion,then add 1 2 it…
Any hoot,
Let me finish with this
I guess !!!
Were set N R ways
Molded U C
We walk N a comma
This should not B
A sound a frequency
Were humans U C
What we put out
Attracts da same thing
Every things mirrored
It comes back 2 thee
If U B lieve
Soon U will C
Were so N control
So gifted U C
I speak 2 remind
Anything B
4 those who R there
4 those who awake
Theres still 1 more thing
Most need a shake
So loose da left brain
And do what is rite
4 when U B lieve
Da mirror shines bright…
Hope i reminded all
2 try, oops NEVER try…
Try is a potential Fail word…
Hope I reminded U all 2
Do something,anything
2 help keep da sport
going 4 ward…
Any hoot again,
Early 2 bed,
Early 2 rise,
Off 2 da Range,
Shooting clay & doing some
Cross country skiing at
da range,
We have da best out door
Range N Canada.
It’s got a silver lineing written
all over it,
It reminds me of da DZ
PS- Free coffe al day,
Yes it’s cold,its old
It comes with a waiver 2…lol
But it’s free….
Further more –
By Law officers say
2 foot swimming pool
will re-open once we
remove da diveing board…
Also – flying drones has been
Haulted,but we R looking
N 2 kites…
July 1st – PIG roast – BYO though…
July 2nd – ballon fest-
Looking 2 break old record of
I million ballons…
July 3rd – jumpers landing
every where,dont ask,
B there or B square…
July 4th – Nothing,Nada,Ziltch,
Go Fig…
July 21st – bestest day of da year…
Free cars 4 every one…Really…
July 25th – flash-A-hollic day,
starts when it’s dark,
Strongest flashlight galore,
we have throwers,plus flooded,
Acebeam X80
Acebeam X45
Truenight mini
OlightX7R
Fenix,etc etc etc,
Free give aways 1 million lumens,
1.2 mile thrower- eeeee lol
Bring ya own Sun glasses,
U will need them…
So U there !!! Lol
Once upon a time !!!
There was this forest
where a group of
“PAL” holders lived.
These “PAL” holders
were a modest humble
group of good souls,
so rumour has it.
they never bothered
any one,
kept to themselves,
even fed the birds &
rabbits & so on.
They did occasionally
eat the odd bird & rabbit,
but oh well,lol
They seem 2 have a nack
to march to the beat
of there own drums,
not surprising,
they always seem to
have & find the time to
always laugh out loud,
play games,
in joy the love of life,
However one day they
noticed dark smoke
surrounding them
in the forest,
for they knew it was a fire,
such a fire that surrounds
them can only mean
one thing,
The enemy has arrived,
But the “PAL” holders
carried on as if nothing
was wrong,
For they knew the
Art if War if need Be,
They were very skilled
& versed in
Judo & NLP…
They carried on with
daily chores,
ate some food & so on.
Then when they felt
the time was rite,
They lit a fire around them,
The fire spread quickly,
smoke every where,
Strangely some of the animals stayed with the
“PAL” holders,
As if they knew it was
the rite thing to do
in order to survive…
The fires eventually
clashed,
Poof it was over,
The “PAL” holders seem
to know,
it’s best to supply ammo
that can & will be
used against them,
To do otherwise,
could be very foolish,
For a Trojan Horse
is not a safe guard,
but when one learns
to conceal a Trojan Horse
one may have the
final blow…
For these “PAL” holders
know that when one
chooses not to stay in there
HEARTS FACE,
One is easily moved
towards the self distructive
energys of
Anger
Hate
Revege
Confusion &
Fear
and are easily duped…
The End,
Soooooooo much frustration – understandably – common sense ?? – there just isn’t any. I’ve given the idea of what I would call an “Integrity Act” to my MP. —– Such an Act would include a “reverse-onus”. —- That is to say — Guilty is guilty — Proven innocent would have ALL costs and expenses compensated — [with some responsibility shouldered by the charging authorities]. This would potentially eliminate unjust charges, The list grows on..